Tuesday, November 4, 2008

A Note to Christians

So Obama was elected president, and I'm pretty upset and dissapointed right now, but before you go all "well you should be this is horrible!" on me, I'm not dissapointed for the reason you think I am. I'm dissapointed because I don't think I have ever witnessed such overwhelming hatred in my life as I have today, or the past few months for that matter. I'm not talking about the candidates, I'm talking about the American people. And what kills me even more is that the bulk of this rage is coming from christians. There's a difference between defending your beliefs, and spewing hatred. It's one thing to disagree with a candidate, or a policy; it's an entirely different thing to turn on your fellow believers over something like politics. And to do it in the name of God is...heartbreaking. In the past month I've watched as enraged christians do unspeakable things in the name of godliness, all the while their demeanor, words, and actions show anything but. I've seen devoted followers of Christ be told by fellow believers that they're not really a christian because of their polictical preference. Do you understand the seriousness of that? To speak judgement on someones soul because they happen to feel differently than you on issues of government, most of which, if not all, are not even outlined in the bible??? You know what is outlined in the bible? The seriousness of judging someones heart. Someone can claim godliness on their actions all day long, but when those godly actions oppose the word they so "confidently" speak on...something is wrong with that picture. This isn't a fight, this is a plea to end the fight before the dissention grows wider. Today I honestly felt like a part of America took a large step back, and not because Barack Obama was elected president, but because I watched the light of this nation cloud over with division and hatred. I've spent many nights(previous to this election) in tears over the increasing lack of God's love and grace in the American church, and after today all I can say is..the only way the enemy is winning anything in this election is if we allow this hatred to consume us and ultimately...to divide.

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Tito said...

The conflict for a Christian lies in the matter that we vote for who aligns most with our beliefs.

Before we are American, we are Christian.

To vote for Obama is to support: Black Liberation Theology (which suggests white man should be eliminated if they do not support Black Liberation Theology, and does not correspond AT ALL to Christian theology), Abortion (including partial birth abortion... Delivering a fully developed baby, all the way except the head is still in the vaginal canal, jamming scissors into its head, opening the scissors, then vacuuming the brains out), Infantcide (if an abortion is unsuccessful, Obama thinks its okay to deliver a perfectly healthy baby and leave it on a table or in a trashbin to suffocate), Legalization of drugs.

..."To speak judgement on someones soul because they happen to feel differently than you on issues of government, most of which, if not all, are not even outlined in the bible???"...I'm pretty sure, no, Im positive those things I stated above are matters covered in the Bible. These are moral issues, voting for Obama means you believe in the man's morals. We vote for who we want to represent our beliefs. I'm pretty sure Murder, heresy, and taking the Lord's name in vain are against Christian doctrine, all of which Obama supports.

I haven't witnessed division, hatred, or dissension amongst my church. Perhaps I am just blessed with a congregation who is informed, educated, and willing to fight for Christianity.

I share in feeling disappointment. However, my disappointment is from the fact that Christians are willing to encourage, tolerate, and CHOOSE to elect a man who contradicts many of our core beliefs and theology.

What is a Christian to think of another "Christian" when they CHOOSE to SUPPORT murderous, heretical, and deceptive men? Are we to tolerate their misconceptions by saying "I respect your choice to vote for evil", or are we not called to love our brethren enough to show them the error of their ways? Tolerance is not Christian. Love is.

If I know a Christian brother or sister is supporting Obama, is it not my duty to help persuade them away from enforcing everything they claim to stand against?

I understand Debi's frustration, and since I haven't seen "hatred" among believers, I tend to believe what she may have seen is frustration among believers. A Christian, an informed/educated Christian rather, could not possibly support a man like Obama OVER John McCain or Alan Keyes.

I will be one of the ones who says "You cannot be a Christian if you willingly support abortion, same sex marriage, infantcide, and a man with radically racist and heretical beliefs. A vote for Obama supports all those".

The last thing is. Last I saw tonight, it looked like Democrats ruled the Executive Office (president), the House of Representatives, and the Senate. This means that the Democrats can push through anything without opposition. Which translates into, the Democratic agenda is going to be pushed through (everything outlined in this message, and more).

If anything I said is mistook as hatred, understand it is not hatred by any means. Its Fear. Fear that our country is going to support everything Christians stand against. Fear that Christians are becoming tolerant. Fear that Christians are compromising their morals/beliefs. Fear that Christians make uninformed, uneducated, and immoral decisions because they buy into some orators mottos. Not hatred, purely Fear.

Anonymous said...

To tito... "Fear not, for I am with you." - God

It matters not what the politics or the national trends are, He will never leave you or forsake you. Godly laws do not produce righteousness any more than ungodly ones do. God alone is able to make things righteous.

The American church is weak and divided. The political sentiments of the day are merely an indicator of where we stand as a nation before God. The worse it gets in America, the less salt and light there is opposing the evil.

Regardless of what is going on, and how dispicable the situation is, the proper response should not be argumentation, but rather tears.

Great blog Debi; I agree with what you wrote. May God give wisdom to Obama as he leads America. As for me, my citizenship is in heaven. That's where my identity and loyalties lie, despite where I was born.

Tito said...

To John,

Without sounding like an overly paranoid Christian, what happens to countries that turn their backs on the way of the Lord? Judgment? Decay? Corruption?

It scares me, rather, it hurts me to realize that there are so many Christians that are misinformed or uneducated. It hurts me to know that there are Christians who will support false ideologies before they support morality. It hurts me to realize that there are Christians who would willingly support a single political party ruling the presidency, senate, and house, ultimately giving Dems a free ticket to push through federal laws/statutes/legislations without opposition.

"Godly laws do not produce righteousness any more than ungodly ones do. "

Does this mean we do not stand up, defend, and fight for morality? That statement seems to imply a "ehh whatever happens happens" attitude. We have an obligation to preserve morality, holiness, and righteousness. Though that battle is increasingly being lost (hence in 8 years, californians support of marriage between man and woman dropping nearly 10%). Morality is going down, it's a result of the moral foundations this generation was built upon (an almost non existent foundation).

Is it not scary that 90% of America professed Christianity some years ago, and yet 48% of california votes to enable gay marriage? Heck, the 52% who voted against gay marriage probably weren't even all religiously compelled to do so.

And I can fear for the fate of my country, the moment we expel God from our government, those very things I first mentioned will happen. I'm not one who will scream "judgement" or "apocalypse", but this is the first time we didn't elect a Christian, Protestant, or Catholic President. Thats scary.

We are fervently praying for Obama. I believe he is a man with good intentions (though they vary from mine). I believe he will do what he feels is best for the country (though, once again, that may vary from my views). I pray for truth (appropriate christian theology) to be revealed to him. I think he is a spiritual man, I just pray his truth will correspond to the truth that is found only in our God.

And fear is appropriate in certain situations. God is not a lovey dubby God all the time. He is a JEALOUS God. What will a God who is jealous do if his greatest nation vacates His name/His laws? I dont know, but I can fear his jealousy.

I feel no anger or hatred towards Christians who voted for Obama, I just think their worldview is partially Christian, and still partially in the secular world (if having partial worldviews is possible).

Jagger Photography said...

ww man i just wanted to make some funny witty comment saying hello on your blog, and you had to go and write some deep, meaningful letter to Christians.... oh debi.